Comments on: Chicago Bears Jay Cutler

By: terrill

terrill — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 15:50:30 +0000

all of this talk of “no team for a decade” if this doesn’t work out. guys, he is a proven QB. we gave up two draft picks and orton for him. i liked orton, but what do we not have that the superbowl winning teams don’t have? a QB! brady, montana, aikman, young, even rothisberger!! i am not happy with decent, i want to win and you should to. its proven ( with very fex exception ) that to win you need a big time QB. embrace this move as you should see that the bears are trying to be big time NFC players now. i think that they are.

By: Perno

Perno — Fri, 03 Apr 2009 02:16:22 +0000

@Derek:

Well there’s $10 down the drain! Maybe you can sell it to someone in Denver?

By: Derek

Derek — Thu, 02 Apr 2009 20:53:19 +0000

I just made a website to give a little credit to Orton before we throw him under the bus – this is not intended to say Orton is better than Cutler, just that the asking price is way too high when you take everything into consideration:

kyleortonisourqb.info

Feel free to leave some comments on our petition!

By: Robert Carl Parisien Natick MA

Robert Carl Parisien Natick MA — Thu, 02 Apr 2009 20:52:09 +0000

I wouldn’t trade the future for Cutler. If a modest deal can be made then great. if not forget it. Robert Carl Parisien Natick MA. Denver doesn’t have much leverage here. The guy is gone. Major misstep by the new Denver coach. too young for the job I think.

By: Perno

Perno — Thu, 02 Apr 2009 16:50:39 +0000

Heck no, that’s way too much to give up. WAY too much, almost unfathomable. Cutler is a great talent, but cripes…might as well just pack the franchise up for a decade and come back in 2019 with a whole new roster.

The thing is, we have no idea what the offers are until more details come out, right? I think Orton is a decent QB and that’s all the Bears need…whether he can live up to being “decent” remains to be seen, he certainly wasn’t after his injury last year.

By: Grabber

Grabber — Thu, 02 Apr 2009 16:48:33 +0000

Roy, good post. But I’m not sure if any team involved is going to go as far as giving up 3 first round picks – I’m just guessing, but I think 2 1st rounders plus a combination of other round picks and additional players is what is going to be in play. Denver’s immediate player needs (defense) and what other teams effectively match up to that will be a factor. I’m hopeful Angelo for once can be creative enough to get something like this done. But realistically, unfortunately I’d put the Bears’ chances at 50/50 at best.

Here’s the thing – yes, by giving up high picks, you forfeit the opportunity to draft high in the next few years. But generally speaking, with a few exceptions, the Bears have had very little success with high picks in Angelo’s tenture, but they have had some success with later round picks. So getting what you need to replace what’s necessary is still certainly possible without those picks being first rounders. Although they have obviously done next to nothing in FA this offseason, that route is also another way to get what you need, and if they are lucky enough to land Cutler, they will have to go that route hard in the next few years. It’s not going to all happen overnight, but it can be done.

I firmly believe Cutler is a solid QB you can build around. Forget all the character assassination going on, the focus in his career record, etc. – the guy has obvious talent and upside and someone’s going to land him and be set for 8-10 years. I would also be surprised if he goes to an AFC team, which limits options. As much as I criticize Angelo for all of his blunders, I will not rip him to shreds if he gets Cutler and Cutler fails. You must take a chance on this if it can be done.

Yes, Washington and Snyder are something to worry about. But Jason Campbell is a QB I don’t think Denver would do back flips over like everyone seems to think. Neither would Orton, obviously. A good point was made in something I saw today, that despite Cleveland having maybe the best cards to deal with in Quinn and others to maybe offer, there is little chance a guy like Cutler could co-exist with Mangini after seeing how the mess with Favre played out last year, with both Favre and Cutler represented by Cook.